Biblical communism

If you believe in GOD and so give GOD the last word in all happenings then it IS so, inclusive guideposts in it, and cannot be overruled by anything.
GOD has the last word ANYWAY but allows of course the free will, and so, is not forcing the result -within borders to protect. All souls have to manifest themselves in choosing their ways.
The damage you can get is if you don't give GOD the last word and transgress natural order as is given in the Bible, and continuing wrong choices, starting to print in the coherence between you and your surrounding. I don't mean here the power of positive/negative thinking, power of affirmations (not motto), effect of thoughts, fear of something or so, which is all out of Biblical natural order to let that (anticipate) print. Through choose to do that, practize that, you connect to the asking (develish demolishing) force.
The Bible is infallible in the sense of all the given structures, which you determine by adding everything together to get the full picture. The Bible is secured by GOD rising above the different human hands in It and so is the Word of GOD.
SERVE EACHOTHER IS THE LAW the Bible states. Even this;
"And every time there were that sold or gave their posessions, for all those who wanted" Bible Acts 2.45.  
Everything is a print of soul. And every soul feeds it by GOD or the asking force (negative) in the end (sub)consciously. GOD said "There'll be (day)light" and there wàs light, a voice a vibration. 
A print in creation God'S voice in time and place. 
Everything is a print of soul nothing IS matter. 
The only thing that exists is spirit(ual). So matter is spirit coming from soul.
There is soul, etherical body and full body "this" flesh, Bible 1Thessalonians 5.23.
Everybody has an "antenna". Everything has intuitive value {this has NOTHING to do with disrupting things as mindreading, second sight as condition, psychometry as condition (=getting to know things through a belonging), seeing or hearing things just like that, (searched not prayed for) searching omen, medium (I don't mean condition and attitude to receive and notice things), clairvoyance as condition, calculating astrology, occult-paranormal-pentecostal, or so which leads to destructive impoverishment demolishing the richness of GOD'S coherent manifestations which you need to express and get everything}. 
You can notice the content of things places happenings and also get contactatmosphere which is a link to object(s) places and/or person(s) involved. God'S way of healthy intuition (intertime/interspace)(day)dreams convictions contactatmosphere attraction.
As well as having "roots uptill water in times of drought"; help of GOD where you can't, Bible Jeremiah 17.7-8. GOD'S connectionsupply.
Also a game "synchronizes" the truth and gives contactsphere.
Scenes in life are painting a picture to paint the truth and you get in contactsphere with the deepest truth.
Everything is soulprint. Souls which body are not physicaly together experience connection.
What you see AROUND YOU IS more.
"There is more between Heaven and Earth than you may think at first sight".
See if something is meant to be by testing it despite your maybe even obstaculous opinion because of GOD'S interdimensional possibilities and not be blind for signals passing by. 
So scenes arises in everybodies life.......

ISN'T IT NICE!!!

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BLESSINGS

In the Bible Acts 5.1-16 a certain Ananias and his wife Saffira sold something and said to Peter that they gave the whole yield to the community instead of honestly saying "Here I give this to the community". Peter fulfilled of the Holy Spirit, however saw them through that they did not lie to just him but thought to coin and wheel-deal the EFFECTIVE FORCE OF GOD, and spoke out the judgement Peter read from GOD, to them, and they died.
THAT SEEMS -to put it mildly- A CHOCKING THING.
VERY CHOCKING.
AND YOU WONDER.......
Isn't there any forgiveness?
GOD saw of course ENOUGH REASONS (several) in the total coherence of all things concerning, that it went like this. 
Compare Acts 8.9-24; A magician Simon, amazing people with his conjuring so he was called the great power of GOD, came to faith in Jesus and was baptized. Then he offered money so he could bring the HOLY SPIRIT on people. Peter said 'May Your silver be with You into perdition' and 'repent and pray to GOD that this may be forgiven, there is neither part nor lot to You in this matter'. Simon asked Peter to petition for him that nothing of Peter had spoken would came over him.
Ananias and Saffira should have said that they gave that and that amount and they would have been REWARDED and BLESSED by GOD through GOD'S EFFECTIVE FORCE.
Instead of changing the story to come out better by saying that they gave everything and so COINING that what is fulfilled of the Holy Spirit, they could have spoken the truth. Instead of not trusting the coming together for the best of things in that field.
And -so doing- even want to go OVER THAT.
In the Bible pretext is used to save a situation, that is something else, that is not that you don't trust the possibilities of the Holy Spirit and think and decide to go through with the idea that the EFFECTIVE FORCE OF GOD (HOLY SPIRIT) don't registrate everything.
Furthermore it is not possible to judge somebody if the somebody whom the judgement is directed to is not addressable/effectable through their own co-operation which co-operation arises through being consciously guilty uptill that level.
In the asking (develish) force, for example a curse, makes the person doing, guilty, and the person addressed must have enough superstitional co-operation reason and guilt to get any effect.
Leaves the fact: "Isn't this 'a bit' much?!".
And why speak out (publicly also here) judgement AT ALL?! 
The lie he and his wife commited was not towards people but towards GOD (Bible Acts 5.4) Acts 5.9 'How could You agree to tempt the Spirit of the Lord?".
So here we see that it cannot be more bad than think, and go through with the idea, to come out better in not being honest in telling what they gave, because it concerns here the rewarding of the Holy Spirit and, indeed, so, they did not lie that they donated more, to people (Acts 5.4).
Things are tuned RIGHT there is never that sort of adversity and punishment which prevents worse, just like that but precisely adjusted because of ALL COHERENT REASONS OF THINGS AND PEOPLE CONCERNING. Take the Titanic the unsinkable ship which sank the first trip, had a sign on it "Even God cannot sink this ship", I don't need to explane the blasphemy. I would not GO on that ship! A part of the passangers was saved.
So in the perspective of everything GOD had no reasons to leave time of this life of these two to continue. 

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GOD'S gorgeous symbiotic creation expressing; Spelt.

Bible Genesis 1.29; And God said, behold, I have given You every plant seeding seed which is on the face of all the Earth, and every tree in which is the fruit of a tree seeding seed; it shall be food for You.
So people are not even vegetarian but fruitarian! And animals vegetarian in GOD'S original order Genesis 1.30.
So what are the fundamentals.
Fundamentally it is like this;
The mentioned above.
Products made of the mentioned above.
Milk and cheese from plants made out of the fruit.
(Super)honey from the bees.
Softly not burned baked bread.
Nothing burned, cooked, and saturated with water you throw away.
Nothing alcohol.
Nothing burned inhale.
Sleep during the night 24hrs-6hrs or a bit around that adjusted to your situation.
Don't conflict/curse with/on nature by lying down during the day or being verticaly and active in the night.
There is time place and shape for everything...
That Jesus changed water into wine and says 'I shall not drink from the fruit of the vine till I drink it new with You in the Kingdom of my FATHER' does not mean a precise copy of the same thing. Also there is so called new wine with no alcohol. Also Jesus asked for a piece of fish after his resurrection 'so You can see that I am no spirit'.
So there are temporal things and later-perfect things.
In coming paradise people eat fruit and what comes from that and animals vegetables.

Considder these things for your wellbeing;
Bodily exercize
Nutrition
Regularity
Fitting in GOD'S ordination of day/night/morning/afternoon/evening/weekdays/weekend.


The magnificence of spelt.
It is easyly to digest easyly assimilated by the body. 
The nutritive contents keep intact in milling.
It is good for keeping the blood pure and healthy, it stimulates a joyful mind and cheerfulness, it causes equable energy and is powerful in making fit, strenghtening the nervoussystem, the brain, normalizes the cholesterol and supports the digestion, the cell-renewing, and detoxes the body by stimulating the kidneys who are very sleepy in this aeon (age). It stimulates the circulation, gives strong muscles. It improves the health of good bacteria, regulates hormones, boosts bone health, boosts immunity, balances bloodsugar, good for the heart and bloodvessels, prevents gallstones, balances the weight, lowers bloodpressure.

I could continue further but that is not the point of this article, the point is;

                                                  GOD'S    GORGEOUS    SYMBIOSIS

It is used in Bilical history as a medicine, it heals the body inside as an ointment. They gave speltpap to people who could not bear other food being sick.
It supports healthy flesh.
It is seen as primeval grain. 
HOWEVER you should watch out for unspoiled spelt un-crossed with other grain and un-manipulated!!!!!
So the coming-from-coherent working and the coherent working and the consequence/follow-up-coherent (set-in-motion) working of spelt is MAGNIFICENT.
PRAISE THE LORD!!!
Even those who sell spelt and speltproducts don't know if it is pure.
It can be spoiled by crossing with other grains, genetic manipulation, artificial fertilizer or other unnatural out-of-GOD'S-order things........
everything that disturbes and spoils the symbioses THAT MAKES IT ALL.
IN EUROPE THEY WANTED TO FORBID TRADING AND EXCHANGE NATURAL SEEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (in 2013).

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We are soul, body and spirit.

We consist out of 3; body, soul and spirit. 
The soul is the pure YOU the kernel the crux.
Than we have the spirit that is the first body, that remains when the body dies as well as of course the soul. 
So there is 3 to have a full (human) being.
The spirit can function on it's own but that is not perfect to manifest. There is shortness of satisfaction. You need the body to fully satisfy.
That is also why there is a resurrection of the body in the Bible.
A spirit (without body) can influence matter by occasion.
Also spirits disguise themselves and do as if they are somebody else by uptill certain point knowing things. But can never deceive totaly and so steel a full image.
Reading the book of Shirley Maclaine she tells about seeing UFO's and both homes of her leaking where they cannot find the cause. She got an explanation from somebody that the house cried for her and she decided to go standing under the leak and weep upon which the leaking in both houses stopped.
She describes being busy with meditation splitting and putting together yin and yang. 
I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE GETS THE THINGS SHE DESCRIBES, THAT WAY.
You can recognize this as a step too far, if so. There where in God'S ordination a thing as (meaningful) leaking can happen, is leaking without the co-operation of something in the plumbing or roof or what, not God'S system of co-operation and expressing and manifesting coherence.
The free choice of all people brings out and manifests what everybody IS. And everything is all about manifesting; all things manifest something.
If there was free contact with deceased then apart from wrong spirits coming in, also the choice what you choose as the truth would be disturbed by seeing too much. And in this life it is necessary that it comes into being who and what you are by FREE choice.
But that doesn't mean that there is never indirectly or directly contact in dreams, signs or intuitions.
Bible 1Thessalonians 5.23; "And may the GOD of peace Himself fully sanctify You, and may Your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ".  

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If you pray...... things go different.

Prayer is contact with GOD and GOD answering that.
GOD also knocks on the door of people who don't pray.
There is also to deal with the deviations in religion, things that don't belong in Biblical perspective. Deviations as calling on others than GOD directly, as also for example the power of positive thinking and negative thinking, as they preach, as making, and praying by, an image of GOD. 
'You little of faith!' , Jesus said, 'which father gives his child a snake if it asks for a fish!. How much more Your righteous Father in heaven will give You what You need'. And 'do to others what you want them to do to you, because this is the Law and the Prophets' (Matthew 7.7-12).
Also Jesus said; 'Your faith has healed You'. And 'You will get according to Your belief' (Matthew 9.28-29). Meaning faith in GOD and Jesus and the right idea about GOD as caring Father.
The part you do yourself is the choice part. You decide: You believe in GOD, that GOD is the caring Father and Jesus the son, so that you are open to His inspiration and practical help.
In the news of January 2014;  Therese Daoud from Tel Aviv Israel; doctors (Ichilov hospital) could only save her life by amputating her leg, as confirmed by checking in the U.S.A.. But uptill 3 times circumstances postponed this. She TOOK THAT AS A SIGN and started to PRAY and became FREE of cancer without treatment, there where a big cancer like that impossibly can reduce to notting  with or WITHOUT!! treatment, only prayer to GOD in Jesus name passed by, AS THE OFFICIALS UNCOMFORTABLY STATE.
If you pray....... things go different.
What can be avoid gets avoided.
And if you can recognize a hint..... 

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PANG! & CATCH; The significant birth of the right thing.

Getting a whole scheme of things, to end up at a certain point in time which has the right elements, is a crazy thing if you think about it.
There is a lot of history before you have that ONE coming together. Too much things have to fit. And it has to build up together with the things coming from all directions, to that situation you need.
"It had to happen", so it is striking the amount of happenings you need from the 3 dimensional web of all things; the tram has to go through the traffic to name one, to say 'pang' ending up where you needed to be at the right time.
Also the ending up and playing a specific part of something from the past.
So subconsciously you seem to be able to play in-, interact, to arrive at the right constellation. 
ISN'T THAT INTERESTING?!
So we can come to see here that the killing of movement, cutting things shorter, removes shapes. Always if there is movement there are shapes. Things interacting with eachother. 
I thought about something when I was in the city today. I try to do some thinkingwork in a little park regulary in the centre of the city. So I thought about seeing a man and woman in a café years ago, an Asian woman talking on a table with a man -typical that you remember a scene like that, I just passed by- and then I thought something about the coming together of those two. Who knows where they came from. How interesting if you think of the let's call it, the 'pang' moment. The right thing born, grown on the things before and the whole bunch of things influencing vice versa of that history. 
Now you can say 'pang' through the internet skipping movements that you otherwise need to say pang. Well there is an airplane for far away and walking and a bicycle for closer by. So there is a time and shape and place for everything.
Things attend to happen along (any) movement without being able to take consciously the régie.
So keep in mind; to end up RIGHT don't cut short the way to get there. 
Somehow the two in the café I mentioned, met.
Before I had internet it always striked me as unreal, cyberspace, crazy puppets etc.. So don't cross a border.
Always because of doing one thing another thing happens and the reality comes out. 
Coincidently or by intuition you went that and that way, also on the internet and who knows what sort of 'pang' you get!!! But internet cannot cover other things that need to happen.
I met a Japanese artist because of a flat tire, I could have met her on the internet long distance, but how special that we met in my town. And me getting into that, after postponing and postponing, almost too late to see her because I thought "Why should I?" and the flat tire did me passing by there, seeing her "Well let me go in the gallery", with my whole scheme to arrive there to say PANG.
The long arm of coincidence. The endless arm of God. Give God the last word.
You do one thing and the other thing that needs to happen happens.
Slowness is filled with things you skip in speed. When Karel Appel, the famous painter, was asked "How do You work?" he said "I go walking".
Enjoy a prospect for example instead of rushing in.
Things have to work, move, to get the right happenings expressing the souls. 
And it works behind the screen, you move because of one thing and things that need to manifest, happen, and also carry the seed for later in the 3 dimensional web, if you're conscious or not.
Use opportunities, circumstances take you to a certain point, free will, at that moment, a laugh; you were too late, it went wrong etc., it works behind the screen.
In the Bible Ester is taken from her home for the house of women of the king, who tried to find the right woman. Ester said "I NOTICE THE HAND OF GOD" and "I leave it up to Him that I will be able to put in a good word with the king to save the people" and they were not killed. Biblebook Ester.
Since then the Purimfeast, Bible Ester 9.26, is still there to celebrate all this. The all-knowing power of God causes a universe founded on soul. 
"I PAY HONOUR TO THE LORD BECAUSE HE GAVE ME GOOD LEADING, EVEN AT NIGHT MY THOUGHTS ARE RELATED TO HIM WHO LEADED ME TO THIS POSITION. WHAT THE FUTURE MAY BRING I WILL BE LEADED BY THE LORD. Ester said.
Recognize a chance.
I saw two people on TV just yet, I coincidently zapped by, I have no remote control so I pass by channels so I catch something I don't search for....., two people a man and woman, the man telling "I had some time between things and decided to drink a glass of wine. Going into the parking I almost hitted a woman who jumped aside, I lowered the window and we laughed..... and started to talk...." this was some time ago, they are still together.
So if you think about it things happen like that. You need something that carries purpose and creates the opportunity.
MOVEMENT CREATES MOVEMENT,  FROM WRITING ON THE WALL AND IT'S LONG ARM MEANINGS INSPIRATIONS AND CLICKS OF ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
HAVE GOD ON THE THRONE OF YOUR LIFE AND MAKE YOUR CHOICES AND LEAVE THE LAST WORD TO GOD.
Don't look for the "perfect" opportunity. 

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The non-public life of Jesus.

The public life of Jesus is written in several historybooks. For example Flavius Josephus {also about Jesus' brother (Mark 3.21, John 7.1-13, Galatians 1.19)}, Cornelius Tacitus, Lucian of Samosata, Pliny The Younger, Celsus, Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus, Thallus, Mora Bar Cepurian, The Talmud, Aristides The Athemian, Justin Martyr, Ignatius of Antioch, Hegesippus, Clement of Rome, the koran, Mishna, Midrashin, Phlegon, Julius Africanus, Philo of Alexandria.
But what about the non public life of Jesus??
What did he do before. And..... after.
He  physicaly resurrected (Lucas 24.39-42; "a spirit has no flesh and bones as You see I have" and he ate some fish) and after 40 days disappeared in a cloud, the Bible writes. But there are no specifics if he left the Earth immediately or what. Only that he "sits on the right hand of Power" (a.o. Matthew 26.64) till the "day" he (Luke 17.30) is revealed again (αποκαλυπτεται). This 'right hand of Power' is a position a title. There is for example also an expression in the Bible; 'from heaven' meaning coming from above, from God'S domain, and coming 'from earth' meaning coming from matter, from below, worldly. If you don't know these, it can confuse things in for example 'heavenly Kingdom' which don't means living upthere. Also aeon meaning worldage and kairós as parts of that for another example, and worldhours pankósmies óres, and 'days', aeons goes about very big periods uptill millions of earthyears, but just translating aeon with 'world' it can support the teaching that the Earth is going to be demolished; 'this world (aeon) ends', there where the Bible for example a.o. in Psalms 104.5 writes "the earth is for ever and ever".

This article is not about acknowledging claims about Jesus been uptill Shingo Japan, but about the principle that Jesus resurrected in the flesh (Give me something to eat so that You see that I am no spirit which has no flesh and bones as I have, they gave some fish and honeycomb, Bible Luke 24.36-43) and the meaning of Jesus retracting from publicity to the position of the right hand of Power.

There are several stories about that Jesus, before and after (resurrected) his public life, traveled to the East and even uptil Herai, now called Shingo, near Hatsidate Japan. 

There are stories on top of stories and facts but if you cut away the weeds there is something left.

There was a vivid travelroute from East to West and vice versa in that time. You only had to join into the group of travelers. Inns where literal everywhere every so much kilometers.
Via India Tibet further China, where stories about Jesus passing there, still are very alive. Swami Abhedananda founder Vedanta Society New York, tried to debunk the story of Jesus been in India Tibet and further China region (a.o. Nicolas Notovitch, Nicholas Roerig) but discovered copies of original hidden documents.
Also in Islam.
Apart from this it is of some interest that Jesus and Siddharta Gautama (Buddha) did simular things as signs teachings anyway, Jesus could be welcomed there anyway. 
Why stating at forehand that a thing like this is impossible? However don't swallow things just like that. 
A Shinto high priest Kiyomaro Takeuchi who's family is connected to the emperor which is high(est) Shinto priest, for millennia, recognized officialy this matter in 1936.

If you cut away the weeds (a lot) there is something left. 

Search "The lost years of Jesus" and you find on the line Israël-Japan a lot. 
Writers and researchers about Jesus traveling to the East: Charroux, Kiku Yamane, Rowland G. Gould, Y.S Matsumara, Aziz Kashmiri, Jandai Monji, Laurent J. Teisseire, Prof. J. Meulman, Joseph Eidelberg, Elizabeth Clare Prophet, Marvin Tokayer, Nicolas Notovich, Edward T. Martin, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, Nicholas Roerich (Roerich pact core element in foundation United Nations, 3 times nominated Nobelprice for peace, Nicholas Roerich museum New York), Holger Kersten, Swami Abhedananda (Vedanta Society New York), Gloria Basque (head of International Fellowship of Faith), Elizabeth Caspari (a.o. founder montesorischools and trainingscentres throughout America), sir Francis Younghusband, palm leaf books, many Islamic and Hindu historical works, and more.

Suwa Taisha shrine Ontohsai 15th of the 4th each year, in Nagano prefectuur; festival illustrating the story of Isaac, Bible Genesis 22, one of the important rituals in Shinto religion. Mount Moriya is the holy place there, Genesis 22.2 Moria. The original Japanese Shinto belief is free of idols, like the Bible is. It is very surprising that the Shinto religion rituals are same as in the Bible for that part. 
The standingpoint that matter, places, is spirit related, in Shinto, is right in the sense that things always represent/embody something, only their explanation that you should please, pay honour and pray to spirits because of the fact that they are in that matter, places, differs of course from the Bible where the praying must point to GOD Who puts everything/-body where it is.

Spirit(ual) (reason) in everything.

Honour GOD first next to honour spirit(s) of people in the flesh or spirit or other spirits, with GOD above that.
There is however one Absolute Creator in Shinto, the holy couple Izanagi & Izanami are on the eighth place in the creationorder, the line of emperors are still the highpriests. The Kami in things means 'that what is above (it)'. The Divine spirit demands life on Earth for joy, happiness, fulfilment, the goal is to come in unity with the DIVINE. Harmony is the word. Here and now is the characteristic.
God is absolute monarch in the Bible. Idol honouring or calling on anybody or anything only pointing to GOD in this perspective. Compare the apron of Paul healing Bible Acts 19.11-12 and 2Kings 13.21 where close to the bones of Elisha somebody came to life again, works by {(sub)conscious} agreement of the participants.
The purity rituals in Shinto are striking, symbolizing getting to the the purity, orginality, of all things.
Some simularities with the Bible are striking. The offering on Moriya I mentioned. Also the Mikoshi, shape and purpose very similar as Tabernacle, is put inside the building called Jikkenroh and compared with the Ark. 75 Dearheads (no sheeps in ancient Japan) are offered where 75 heads of lambs are offered in the Biblical Samarian Passover Festival, dears and lambs are Kashrut in the Bible. Survey of the Jikkenroh is same size as Sanctum Tabernacle and both a roof without walls and skeleton of a building with pilars arranged at regular intervals. Branches of Sakaki, flowering evergreen, are used, also to clarify the body, as hyssop (Bible) for the same purpose. Onbashira, over there, wooden poles on each corner as in temples Jerusalem. A Mikoshi is indispensable in festivals of Shinto shrines. There are festivals in every small town in any season.

Isukiri in the documents Jesu Christi Jesus Christ.
The beauty in Shinto tells something.
Also in the area around Herai traditions alien to the rest of Japan as; dialect, place name as in Hebrew, foreign looking facial features, clothing as toga-like robes for men, veils worn by women, babies in woven baskets and wrapping them in robes embroidered with a star of David like symbol, crosses on their forehead of charcoal as talisman.

They renamed the village in 1955 Shingo which was Herai resembling Heburai Japanese for Hebrew.

Eli Cohen ambassador of Israel dedicated a plaque in 2004 about the Hebrew ties between Shingo and Israël.

HOWEVER IN THE BIBLE YOU ONLY PRAY TO the "unpersonal"*-everybodies-Father-GOD revealed by the Bible and Jesus Christ - *Who doesn't seek  personality cult- WHO GIVES ALL THE REST, AND FOR EXAMPLE A HANDKERCHIEF OR APRON (Bible Acts 19.11-12) OF PAUL HEALS POINTING TO GOD.
IN SHINTO YOU HONOUR THE KAMI WHICH IS SEEN BEHIND THINGS.
IN ROMAN CATHOLICISM THEY HONOUR AND CALL ON SAINTS WITH THEIR PERSONAL CHARACTER AND SPECIALITIES (gets blown up), AND SO INFLUENCE IN PRAYING, AND ALSO ANGELS (gets blown up), TO PLEA WITH GOD.

So you can state that we cannot say what Jesus did between his 12th and thirty-something 
AND what he did after getting out of sight, seperating from the more intimate followers; Luke 24.50-51: "and he let them out as far as to Bethany and having lifted up his hands he blessed them and it came to pass as was blessing he them he was separated from them and was carried up into the heaven" not mentioned which, as sky, spiritual or (further) universe,  Enoch went up to heaven not saying ending up where 2Kings 2.11 Elijah sended a letter after that 2Chronicles 21.12, Mark 16.19, Acts 1.9-11, -where Jesus' 'sitting on the right hand of Power' started because HE WAS READY, FINISHED HIS WORK FAITHFUL UNTIL DEATH and was taken up to Heaven(ly position).

Stephen saw the Son of man (Jesus) next to the glory of GOD, "full of Spirit Holy having looked intently into heaven" and: "the heavens opened" Bible Acts 7.55, here we have a representing image, the position of Jesus not the dwellingplace, Bible Acts 7.54-60.
He left publicity like that. 
Jesus; 'It is better that I go, then the Comforter can come' John 16.6, 
John 14.16-17: "I will petition THE FATHER , and another Paraclete (Comforter) He will give You, that He abide with You forever, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, whom the world (worldly of this aeon) is not able to receive, because not it sees Him, nor knows Him".
He left public life like that.
But where Jesus precisely "bodyly" went is not said.
Immediately to (a) heaven as dwellingplace or what is not explaned in the Bible.

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